Comments on: Are we all going to hell? http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/ One Geek One Blog Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:05:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Jo http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6287 Jo Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:36:47 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6287 I do think though Gem that we actually, as God's people on earth, are how he clothes and feeds and welcomes, thus it is our resposibility to do these things as much as we can. But yes, I agree too that it about our attitude and response in particular situations. Ryan, I'm glad you like goats but I must admit I am rather traumatised about the whole goat thing at the moment..... I do think though Gem that we actually, as God’s people on earth, are how he clothes and feeds and welcomes, thus it is our resposibility to do these things as much as we can.

But yes, I agree too that it about our attitude and response in particular situations.

Ryan, I’m glad you like goats but I must admit I am rather traumatised about the whole goat thing at the moment…..

]]> By: David http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6283 David Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:58:58 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6283 I think you all have interesting points. I do actually think it's more an attitude thing. It's interesting to try and take some of these things at face value without much context though :-). I think you all have interesting points. I do actually think it’s more an attitude thing. It’s interesting to try and take some of these things at face value without much context though :-).

]]> By: gem http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6278 gem Fri, 14 Apr 2006 04:41:10 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6278 I don't think God can judge us on not feeding, clothing and visiting everyone when he is not exactly feeding, clothing, housing everyone right now either. I think God is just reminding us to see his face in the poor, hungary and lonely. It is a good way of making sure we don't get too comfortable in our lives with our well dressed, well fed friends. I don’t think God can judge us on not feeding, clothing and visiting everyone when he is not exactly feeding, clothing, housing everyone right now either. I think God is just reminding us to see his face in the poor, hungary and lonely. It is a good way of making sure we don’t get too comfortable in our lives with our well dressed, well fed friends.

]]> By: James http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6270 James Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:24:34 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6270 An interesting bit of teaching that. One thing to point out it that in a middle eastern culture sheep are scrawnier things and much more difficult to tell apart from goats just by having a quick look than you'd first think, which is the point, I reckon. One thing that certainly comes across very strongly is that there are gonna be some surprises on that day - people who were sure they were gonna be in are out, and vice versa. And it's all very well demonising the pharisees, but for an interesting slant on it, swap the word "Pharisee" for "evangelical" when you read the gospels! Cf. http://www.royclements.co.uk/sert23.htm for a thought provoking essay. I digress. In short I don't know the answer David - it throws up a lot of questions. I'm not sure that "brothers" does necessesarily mean only christians though, as Jesus' favourite name for himself was the "son of man" = the fullness of humanity. Maybe this could extend the brothers thing to humanity also? Maybe. Either way it's clear that social justice is not extra to the gospel, it's an intrinsic part of it. Cf Luke 4. It also seems sensible to reject a dogmatic "who's in, who's out" attitude, but rather leave that up to the shepherd and get on with following him with an attitude of gratitude and humilty. An interesting bit of teaching that. One thing to point out it that in a middle eastern culture sheep are scrawnier things and much more difficult to tell apart from goats just by having a quick look than you’d first think, which is the point, I reckon.

One thing that certainly comes across very strongly is that there are gonna be some surprises on that day - people who were sure they were gonna be in are out, and vice versa. And it’s all very well demonising the pharisees, but for an interesting slant on it, swap the word “Pharisee” for “evangelical” when you read the gospels! Cf. http://www.royclements.co.uk/sert23.htm for a thought provoking essay. I digress.

In short I don’t know the answer David - it throws up a lot of questions. I’m not sure that “brothers” does necessesarily mean only christians though, as Jesus’ favourite name for himself was the “son of man” = the fullness of humanity. Maybe this could extend the brothers thing to humanity also? Maybe.

Either way it’s clear that social justice is not extra to the gospel, it’s an intrinsic part of it. Cf Luke 4. It also seems sensible to reject a dogmatic “who’s in, who’s out” attitude, but rather leave that up to the shepherd and get on with following him with an attitude of gratitude and humilty.

]]> By: Ryan http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6004 Ryan Wed, 12 Apr 2006 06:26:29 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6004 I like goats. Especially baby goats. But not to eat. I like goats. Especially baby goats. But not to eat.

]]> By: David http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6000 David Wed, 12 Apr 2006 04:29:17 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-6000 It's related to Jesus' brothers. The idea being that the brothers of Jesus are Christian's. It’s related to Jesus’ brothers. The idea being that the brothers of Jesus are Christian’s.

]]> By: emily http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-5977 emily Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:43:14 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-5977 Why does it only apply to Christians? I do not see anything in that passage that implies that. In fact I imagine when the story was told it would have been to a bunch of Jews. Why does it only apply to Christians? I do not see anything in that passage that implies that. In fact I imagine when the story was told it would have been to a bunch of Jews.

]]> By: tiffany http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-5943 tiffany Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:24:36 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-5943 here's to hoping God rounds up... here’s to hoping God rounds up…

]]> By: Jo http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-5902 Jo Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:32:51 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-5902 We did that passage in Biblestudy on Friday so were thinking about it too. Oh I wish I had something insightful to say about it. At the time I was thinking that it would be so much harder to read this passage in a developing country where everyone was hungry and thirsty and needed clothes, so it is funny that it is you who has been pondering on it over there in India. We did that passage in Biblestudy on Friday so were thinking about it too. Oh I wish I had something insightful to say about it. At the time I was thinking that it would be so much harder to read this passage in a developing country where everyone was hungry and thirsty and needed clothes, so it is funny that it is you who has been pondering on it over there in India.

]]> By: Pete http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-5888 Pete Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:11:52 +0000 http://onegeek.net/blog/2006/04/10/are-we-all-going-to-hell/#comment-5888 Consider it this way. There are those that are like the pharasies. They know God and they know the law. But they don't follow the spirit. They don't really listen to/believe it. Then you have the group that lives their faith. Also, it's not a grading of what you've done at the end, saved by faith not by works. Just have to keep in mind that faith without works is dead. Consider it this way. There are those that are like the pharasies. They know God and they know the law. But they don’t follow the spirit. They don’t really listen to/believe it. Then you have the group that lives their faith. Also, it’s not a grading of what you’ve done at the end, saved by faith not by works. Just have to keep in mind that faith without works is dead.

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